Real Revenue vs. Feel-Good Followers

In this episode, we’re tackling a tough truth: looking popular online doesn’t always mean you’re making money. It’s easy to get swept up in the excitement of likes, comments, and growing your follower count—but what happens when all that effort doesn’t show up in your bank account? We dive into the common trap so many entrepreneurs and creators fall into: chasing social media clout while losing sight of the one thing that really matters—revenue. Through real stories and practical tips, we’re here to help you cut through the noise, refocus your strategy, and start turning engagement into income. Because at the end of the day, it’s not about how many people like you—it’s about how many are buying. This is Real Revenue vs. Feel-Good Followers.
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Ralph dives into a challenge that so many business owners quietly face: the disconnect between online popularity and actual revenue. With honesty and insight, he unpacks the idea of ‘feel-good followers’—those likes, shares, and follower counts that make us feel successful, but don’t always translate into paying customers or real business growth. Ralph shares some hard truths about the seductive nature of vanity metrics, and how easy it is to get caught up in chasing engagement instead of focusing on what truly matters—consistent income and loyal customers. He brings this message home with a powerful story about a restaurant owner whose obsession with going viral ultimately cost her the business she set out to build. This episode is both a reality check and a roadmap. It’s a reminder that sustainable success comes from strategy, not social validation. Ralph challenges listeners to reassess their own digital efforts and shift their focus toward what really drives results.
Chapters:
- 00:20 - The Illusion of Influence
- 01:22 - The Illusion of Popularity: Real Revenue vs. Feel Good Followers
- 14:30 - The Emotional Toll of Social Media Metrics
- 27:44 - Shifting Focus: From Followers to Revenue
- 39:20 - Building Authentic Customer Relationships
Takeaways:
- The disparity between social media popularity and actual revenue can be profoundly disheartening.
- Many entrepreneurs find themselves focusing on vanity metrics rather than building meaningful customer relationships.
- Engaging with followers does not guarantee sales; understanding customer needs is paramount for success.
- It is essential to prioritize direct engagement with potential clients over merely broadcasting content online.
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Companies mentioned in this episode:
- TikTok
- YouTube
- Saggio Accounting Plus
- Ask Ralph Media, Inc.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:20 - The Illusion of Online Success
01:22 - The Illusion of Online Popularity
10:37 - The Followers Trap: Recognizing the Pain of Disconnection
16:55 - Understanding the Disconnect: Metrics vs. Sales
23:15 - The Digital Hamster Wheel: Understanding the Exhaustion of Constant Engagement
28:00 - Redefining Your Ideal Customer
33:42 - Calls to Action: The Pathway to Profit
39:02 - Prioritizing Direct Engagement in Business
46:50 - From Chaos to Clarity
You're scrolling, aren't you?
Speaker AYou're seeing it everywhere.
Speaker AThose massive follower counts, those what I'll call TikTok tigers of influence, the viral videos with millions of views, the online gurus flashing big numbers, always talking about effortless income, living these incredible picture perfect lifestyles.
Speaker AAnd then deep down in those quiet moments when you're comparing your reality to their highlight reel, you might be asking yourself some tough questions.
Speaker ALike this one, why isn't this translating into my sales?
Speaker AOr this one, am I missing some secret?
Speaker AOr how about this one?
Speaker AWhy don't I see the views and likes as they do?
Speaker AAnd finally, you might say, this is all my effort on social media.
Speaker AAll this posting, all this engaging, just for nothing.
Speaker ALet's be honest with each other for a minute.
Speaker AYou've put in the work, you've posted the content, you've tried to build your own audience, but your bank account, well, it just simply isn't reflecting that online popularity.
Speaker AThat's frustrating, isn't, can really make you feel like you're doing something fundamentally wrong, like you're shouting into this empty room, I don't know about you, but it's not fun to feel that way, is it?
Speaker AThat feeling of pouring effort into something that yields no tangible return, that right there is soul crushing.
Speaker ASo today we're gonna pull back the curtain on the biggest, most deceptive illusion in modern business.
Speaker AAs they used to say when I was a kid, don't believe the hype.
Speaker AWe're talking about the painful, often hidden difference between those feel good followers, you know, those feel good followers, those likes and thumbs ups.
Speaker AWe're gonna talk about the difference between that and the real tangible revenue.
Speaker ASee, today this is about cutting through that noise, silencing those constant distractions and focus in your precious finite time and energy on what truly matters to your bottom line and in the end, to your peace of mind.
Speaker ASo stay with me, we're going to get to the heart of this today.
Speaker AHey there.
Speaker AWelcome back to Grit and Growth Business.
Speaker AI'm Ralph Estep Jr. Now if you missed last week's show, we, we had an incredibly honest, deeply personal conversation about burnout.
Speaker AYes, it was a big one.
Speaker AWe acknowledge that silent enemy and started to see the vital work of rebuilding ourselves so that our businesses can truly not just survive, but thrive.
Speaker ASo if you missed it, I want to encourage you to go back and listen.
Speaker AWe're on episode seven, so there are six before this and I encourage you, if you missed any of them, to go back and take a look and take a Listen, this week we're getting into a topic that touches almost every modern business owner, especially those of us who are trying to make your mark online.
Speaker AAnd listen, if you're like me, it's a source of immense pressure, constant comparison, always looking around, and often in the end, if we're being honest, profound disappointment.
Speaker AToday's topic is really pretty simple.
Speaker AReal revenue versus feel good followers.
Speaker AAnd listen, I know what it feels like.
Speaker AI know the allure because I felt it too.
Speaker AHey, listen, there was a time not too long ago for me when I was absolutely convinced that the path to growth was through massive online visibility.
Speaker AThat was going to be my goal.
Speaker AI was listening to those guru narratives.
Speaker ASo I was opening up my phone.
Speaker AI would see these massive Instagram accounts and TikTok stars doing these viral stupid dances and YouTube channels with millions of subscribers.
Speaker AAnd the narrative was always the same.
Speaker AJust build a huge audience and the money will just start flowing in, man, they'll be bringing it to you in suitcases.
Speaker AAnd that sounds so simple, so effortless, doesn't it?
Speaker ASo naturally, you and I, we pour our hours, we pour hours into content creation.
Speaker AWe obsess over engagements, rates.
Speaker AHow many people are watching this?
Speaker AHow long did they listen?
Speaker AAnd we chase those like we actively seek people.
Speaker AHey, share this with your friend.
Speaker AShare this with everybody.
Speaker AWe just can't wait for those comments, hoping that every single follower represents that future customer that's going to equate to that bottom line of revenue.
Speaker AWe feel a little rush.
Speaker AIt's kind of like a hit of dopamine when that follower count ticks up.
Speaker AHey, look at this is getting traction.
Speaker AAnd if you're honest with yourself, it feels like progress doesn't.
Speaker AFeels like you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do in this digital world.
Speaker AIt's a validation.
Speaker AHey, look, I'm making progress.
Speaker ALook at all these followers I have.
Speaker ALook at all these likes.
Speaker ALook at all these shares.
Speaker ALook at these comments.
Speaker ABut then, my friend, the painful reality hits.
Speaker AAlmost like a cold splash of water first thing in the morning.
Speaker AYou got thousands of followers, maybe even tens of thousands of followers.
Speaker ABut then you look at that profit statement.
Speaker AYour actual sales haven't moved a bit.
Speaker AThey're just stagnant.
Speaker AYeah, your engagement looks great, but your invoices aren't getting paid on time.
Speaker AYou're spending precious finite time and energy chasing these vanity metrics.
Speaker AAnd that's really what they are.
Speaker AThey're just vanity metrics.
Speaker AThey, they look impressive on paper.
Speaker AYeah, they make you feel popular.
Speaker AEverybody knows him That's Ralph.
Speaker AHe's got the show, or he's got to this, or he's got the likes.
Speaker AHe's got the TikTok following.
Speaker ABut in the end, they don't actually contribute a single dollar to your profitability or more importantly, to your business stability.
Speaker AAnd I've seen countless incredible entrepreneurs, I'm talking about people who are dedicated craftsmen, brilliant service providers, brilliant engineers, get completely derailed by this.
Speaker ATheir business gets completely derailed by this.
Speaker AI'll tell you right now about a client.
Speaker ARemember a client?
Speaker AShe was a phenomenal restaurant owner, and she spent nearly half of her work week in, you know, creating these intricate Instagram carousels and chasing those.
Speaker AThose viral trends.
Speaker AI remember her telling me, ralph, this is going to be the secret sauce to success.
Speaker AAnd in the end, she did gain thousands of followers.
Speaker AShe saw her, like, soar through the roof.
Speaker AIt would appear she was setting the world on fire, as they say.
Speaker AMy, my grandfather used to say all the time, he's setting the world on fire.
Speaker ABut then we looked under the hood.
Speaker AHer actual client pipeline was drying up.
Speaker AI remember going into her restaurant one day and there was hardly anybody there.
Speaker AThe restaurant was rarely filled up.
Speaker AThere was no reservations on the book.
Speaker AShe was starting to offer, you know, two for one Tuesdays and things like that.
Speaker AI remember talking to her.
Speaker AShe was exhausted.
Speaker AShe was demoralized.
Speaker AAnd at the end of the day, hey, I'm the finance guy.
Speaker AShe was financially stressed, and we started to unwind.
Speaker AHey, what's going on here?
Speaker AAnd we had to come to a very harsh and stark reality.
Speaker AShe was so focused on appearing popular online, she wanted to be that, that rising TikTok star.
Speaker AHey, I saw your restaurant on YouTube, or I saw it on TikTok, or I saw it on Instagram.
Speaker AShe was so focused on that.
Speaker ABut in the end, she'd lost sight of the fundamental purpose of her business.
Speaker ATo serve customers and to generate revenue to make good food.
Speaker AYeah, she was serving her followers, but not actually cultivating customers.
Speaker AShe'd invested in expensive social media tools that netted her followers hundreds and tens of hundreds of those.
Speaker ABut those people weren't walking in the door of the restaurant.
Speaker AFunny, when we looked at it, they weren't even relatively close to her restaurant.
Speaker AShe chased fleeting trends instead of building a clear, compelling value proposition that actually attracted paying customers.
Speaker AYou know, those who come in the door, sit down, place an order, and share that experience with other people.
Speaker ADoes this sound familiar to you and your business?
Speaker ASee that allure of the viral video that will take you to the top of the influencer network is so alluring.
Speaker AIt just grabs your attention.
Speaker AIt does.
Speaker AListen, I've been, I've been victim to that.
Speaker ABut in the end, after all that time, all that money that you spend, all you have in the end, and this, you need to hear this right now is an empty bank account and just deep seated pain of like, where did all my time go?
Speaker AWhere did all those monies go?
Speaker AWhere did all that effort go?
Speaker AAnd in my client's case, an empty restaurant and staff looking for new jobs.
Speaker AYes, her restaurant closed.
Speaker AShe lost her life savings.
Speaker AShe lost it all because everything was put on the line.
Speaker AShe was chasing that next, like that next follower, that next share, that next comment.
Speaker AAnd what's absolutely ironic is on the last day of her business, I want you to hear me on this.
Speaker AShe reached a pinnacle of just over 25,000 YouTube followers.
Speaker AWell, that's great.
Speaker AYou accomplished it.
Speaker ABut now you got 25 employees looking for jobs and your business is closed.
Speaker AAnd let's talk about that pain.
Speaker ASee, the pain here is just absolutely deep frustration.
Speaker AThe pain is immense.
Speaker AWasted resources, both time and money.
Speaker AAnd all the time you put into that, all the money you put into it and that crushing realization that all that effort, listen, if you're doing this right now, it is a ton of effort.
Speaker AIt isn't actually building the business or the life that you want.
Speaker ASo here's my truth bomb as we get rolling today.
Speaker AAnd I told you, I'm always going to give you the truth.
Speaker AYou might be popular online, my friend.
Speaker AYes, you might be popular online, but you're still struggling to make payroll.
Speaker AYou're still wondering how you'll pay next month's rent.
Speaker AYep, you are in a bad spot.
Speaker AAnd if you're honest with yourself, I mean, deep down honest with yourself, you got your priorities way out of whack.
Speaker AWell, now you're thinking, wow, Ralph, you certainly painted a really dark picture.
Speaker AMan, why did I even bother listening today?
Speaker AAnd it's true, I have.
Speaker AI have painted a really dark and bad picture.
Speaker ABut it's true.
Speaker AIt's a true picture.
Speaker AAnd it's time to answer some critical questions.
Speaker AThe first one, I think you've got to.
Speaker AAnd you need to be honest with yourself.
Speaker ATake a moment and think about what I'm getting ready to say.
Speaker AHow do you know if you're caught up in this feel good followers trap?
Speaker AHow do you know if you're caught up in this feel good followers trap?
Speaker AWhat are those common symptoms that tell you your online strategy might Be profoundly disconnected from your actual business goals.
Speaker AAnd then how does this manifest as real, tangible pain in your business?
Speaker AHey, listen, if it's happening in your business, like most small business people, it's happening into your life also.
Speaker AWell, let's talk about the signs and symptoms because you might not even see it.
Speaker AYou know, they see, a lot of times you can't see the forest from the trees.
Speaker ASo let me share with you some signs and symptoms so that we can prevent you from losing your business.
Speaker AClosing that door.
Speaker AAnd your employees are looking for a new place to work.
Speaker AHere's the first one.
Speaker AAnd you got to be honest with yourself as I go through these low conversion rates from your audience.
Speaker AAnd here's the indicator.
Speaker AThis is the clearest, most heartbreaking indicator.
Speaker AAsk yourself, you got a decent following, whether it's 500, 5,000, 50,000, maybe 150,000 people, they're all your followers.
Speaker ABut then once you launch a product, once you offer a service, once you make that, ask for a consultation, very few of them actually become paying customers.
Speaker ASee, it's one thing to have followers, but are they paying customers?
Speaker AAnd the pain here, this is soul crushing because you look at your effort, you feel like you're pulling all your effort into attracting people who aren't interested in buying what you sell.
Speaker AThey're not buying what you sell.
Speaker AThey're not making those appointments, they're not buying those products, they're not scheduling those services.
Speaker AOr then you might say, hey, maybe my message just simply isn't compelling them to take action.
Speaker AIt's like this.
Speaker AIt's like having a huge crowd gathered outside of your brick and mortar shop cheering your name.
Speaker AGo Ralph.
Speaker AGo Ralph.
Speaker ABut no one's actually walking through the door.
Speaker AAnd if they are walking through the door, they're not buying anything.
Speaker AYeah, you're getting applause, yes, but no sales.
Speaker AAnd I remember this myself.
Speaker AI remember feeling so proud of hitting a certain number of email subscribers.
Speaker ALike, I had this.
Speaker AI wanted to have this many email subscribers.
Speaker AAnd I was like, oh, I got to these, oh, this is going to work.
Speaker AThis is going to, this is going to make it all work.
Speaker AAnd then I realized when I actually launched the new coaching program, only a tiny fraction even opened up the email, let alone bought anything.
Speaker AThat open rate was miserably low.
Speaker AYes, I had a bunch of email followers.
Speaker AI was so proud of that.
Speaker ALet me send out these emails.
Speaker AAnd then, oh my goodness, did anybody even look at this thing?
Speaker AEven the ones that opened it up was so small, the click through was horrible.
Speaker AAnd that Right there, my friend, was a wake up call to what true engagement meant.
Speaker ASo that's the first one.
Speaker ALet's move on to the next symptom.
Speaker AAnd that's obsessing over vanity metrics and losing sight of the big picture.
Speaker AIt's so easy to do this.
Speaker AWe got to be honest.
Speaker AAsk yourself right now, do you check your follower account?
Speaker ADo you check your likes?
Speaker ADo you check your shares and your comments constantly throughout the day?
Speaker AAre you always on your phone going, well, let me see how many people watch this video.
Speaker AOh, let me see how many shares there were.
Speaker AOh, there's a lot of thumbs up here.
Speaker AThis is going to be a good day.
Speaker AAnd then do you find that your mood is tied to these numbers?
Speaker AI mean, they're making you feel a certain way.
Speaker AThere are moments of elation and then there's moments like, I can't believe nobody's watching this.
Speaker AI can't believe nobody's sharing this.
Speaker AI can't believe no one's comment on this.
Speaker AAnd then you got to ask yourself this question.
Speaker ADo they determine if you feel success or if you feel like a failure on any given day, regardless of your real world sales?
Speaker ASee, this is the problem.
Speaker AThere's such a disconnect.
Speaker AYou're not looking at your profit and loss statement.
Speaker AYou're not looking at how many revenue dollars are coming in the door.
Speaker AThat's not making you feel good or bad about your business.
Speaker AIt's how many likes you got, how many shares you got, how many comments you got.
Speaker AThat pain right there, that's a huge emotional drain and a grave misdirection of your focus.
Speaker ASee, here's the problem.
Speaker AThese false metrics, they offer emotional validation.
Speaker AYeah, hey, I got a bunch of followers, Ralph.
Speaker AListen, I am doing it.
Speaker AI'm setting the world on fire.
Speaker ARalph, you should see all likes I got.
Speaker AYou should see all the shares in the comments, man, I am doing it.
Speaker AAnd it's this fleeting sense of popularity.
Speaker ABut guess what?
Speaker AIf they're not turning into sales, those metrics aren't paying your bills.
Speaker AThey simply don't pay your bills.
Speaker AAnd see this obsession?
Speaker AAnd that's what it is.
Speaker AIt's an obsession.
Speaker AIt's a huge distraction from genuine strategic business building activities.
Speaker AIt takes you away from refining your product, looking at your product, saying, is this a good product?
Speaker AIs it impactful?
Speaker AAre people interested in, do people want to, you know, do people say, I got to have that?
Speaker AIt takes you away from improving customer service.
Speaker AYou're not paying attention to the fact that nobody's answering your phones or your staff is terrible with customer service and it completely distracts you from a long term strategy where you actually build sustainable growth because you're just looking for that next piece of content which leads to likes, followers, shares and comments.
Speaker AYou get the idea.
Speaker AThink of it like this.
Speaker AIt's like a chef, right?
Speaker AA chef of a restaurant.
Speaker AThey've got great food, but this chef's just meticulously polishing their knives.
Speaker AYou know, there's food on the burners, there's food in the oven, there's food on the stove, but they're sitting there sharpening their knives.
Speaker ASee, nobody cares about their knives if the food is lousy.
Speaker AIf the food comes out burnt, who cares about the knives?
Speaker ASo that's the second one.
Speaker ALet's look at our third symptom.
Speaker AAnd this one is, this is brutal.
Speaker AMarketing efforts don't clearly connect to sales.
Speaker AI'll say this, you're always playing that guessing game.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're actively creating content, you're running ads, you're engaging online and, and you're busy doing it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're spending a lot of time.
Speaker AI'm not going to argue with that.
Speaker AYou say, ralph, I'm putting in a lot of effort.
Speaker AYes, you're putting in a lot of effort.
Speaker AYou're engaged, you're running out, you're spending probably a ton of money on trying to get likes and followers and shares.
Speaker AAnd you are busy doing it.
Speaker ABut then when you step back and try to analyze, you look at, okay, I spent this money on these ads.
Speaker AI spent this money putting this content together.
Speaker AHey, maybe you've hired outside consultants who are, who are helping you with your quote, social media strategy.
Speaker ABut then when you step back and analyze it, you can't draw a direct line from those specific activities to actual sales.
Speaker AYou can't say, hey, I ran this particular piece of content and man, I can't believe how many people came in and bought it.
Speaker ANow if that's the case, great, you're doing the right thing.
Speaker ABut if you can't draw that direct line from those specific activities to actual sales to paid projects or concrete client inquiries, that's a problem.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to use a fancy term.
Speaker AThe pain here is a profound lack of roi.
Speaker AWe, in the accounting term, a fancy term, we call it return on investment.
Speaker AI don't usually put those into the show, but I'll let that one slip by.
Speaker AI try to keep the language plain here, but it's a deep sense of uncertainty.
Speaker AThat's what I'm really talking about you're spending valuable money.
Speaker AYes, you're spending valuable money, but more importantly, even above that, you're in.
Speaker AYou're spending invaluable time without a clear understanding of its measurable impact on your bottom line.
Speaker AYou're doing this.
Speaker AA lot of people talk about this, throwing good money after bad, because that's what you're doing.
Speaker AYou're throwing good money after bed.
Speaker AYou can't draw the line between the connection of this content to actually producing profit for your business.
Speaker AAnd that, my friend, that is never a wise plan.
Speaker AAnd in the end, your marketing feels like it's just a shot in the dark.
Speaker AA giant gamble with your precious resources.
Speaker AI'm gonna say something kind of harsh, but maybe you'd be better off taking a casino and just putting it all on red and hope for the best.
Speaker AYeah, like I said, that's harsh.
Speaker ABut maybe you'd be better off because that's what you're doing.
Speaker AYou're flying blind.
Speaker AYou're just throwing marketing dollars a shot in the dark.
Speaker AYou have no idea if they're working or not.
Speaker AAnd listen, I'm not telling you something I haven't done.
Speaker AI've been there.
Speaker AI've thrown money at ads.
Speaker AIt brought website traffic in, man.
Speaker AI remember I was so pleased to hit 20,000 people in YouTube subscribers, and I spent a ton of money doing it.
Speaker ABut guess what?
Speaker ABig goose egg.
Speaker AZero sales from that.
Speaker AZero sales?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI had 20,000 YouTube subscribers, man.
Speaker AI could go there and say, oh, look at all the subscribers.
Speaker AYouTube's telling me, oh, man, your channel is growing, Ralph.
Speaker AOf course, I spent a bunch of money to get there, but zero sales, zero engagement, zero revenue dollars.
Speaker AZero of those 20,000 followers were helping me pay my bills or grow my business.
Speaker AAnd let me just tell you right now, personally, that was a hard lesson in understanding something very critical.
Speaker AAnd I've said, and it's not just in this particular discussion, I've said this to people in my career from the beginning.
Speaker AActivity doesn't equal effectiveness if you're not tracking what truly matters.
Speaker AActivity doesn't equal effectiveness.
Speaker AIt just doesn't if you're not tracking what truly matters.
Speaker ALet's now talk about number four on my list.
Speaker AChasing trends over building authority.
Speaker AAnd when you do that, absolutely losing your identity.
Speaker ALet me ask you this question.
Speaker AAre you constantly trying to adapt to the latest social media algorithm changer?
Speaker AYou're tracking those.
Speaker AThe newest viral challenge or that hot new platform.
Speaker AYou're just so desperate to stay relevant, and then is that Shifting your focus away from consistently communicating your unique value proposition and that deep expertise that you brought to this.
Speaker AAnd let me just tell you right now, you're listening to this, it's time to be honest with yourself.
Speaker AAre you chasing an inconsistent brand message, a fragmented online presence and attracting the wrong audience?
Speaker ABecause see, you could be attracting noise.
Speaker AI attracted 20 plus thousand people.
Speaker ABut is it the right audience or is it the wrong audience or people who are just interested in that fleeting trend?
Speaker AOh, this is cool.
Speaker ALook, look what this is.
Speaker AThis is great, but not your actual long term solution.
Speaker AAnd this is what I'm going to say next.
Speaker AIt's a huge identity crisis.
Speaker AYou become a content creator first and you're desperately chasing virality.
Speaker AYou want to be that, you want to have that viral video and guess what takes a second seat.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABusy being a business owner and you completely lose focus on your core expertise and who you're trying to serve.
Speaker AAnd when you do that, and you don't want to hear this, but it is the truth, your authenticity gets diluted.
Speaker AAnd a lot of times, and if you're lucky, it just gets diluted, but in some cases, you lose it altogether.
Speaker AI'll give you a great example.
Speaker AI'm working with a coaching client right now who is focusing on their business first.
Speaker AAnd this is after they put way too much effort into the content.
Speaker AAnd it was good content, it was excellent content, but it's content that simply wasn't working to build consistent revenue.
Speaker ANow let's move into my last symptom today.
Speaker AAnd this is another one that I felt.
Speaker AAnd I bet as you're listening to this right now, you might be feeling this too.
Speaker AYou're feeling pressured to be always on.
Speaker AYou're like a marathon runner on that digital hamster wheel.
Speaker AIt's that relentless pursuit of engagement.
Speaker AIt's just relentless.
Speaker AIt all makes you feel like you have to be online constantly, always posting, always responding, every comment entering, interacting, being visible 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Speaker AYou're always checking your YouTube channel, you're always checking your TikTok.
Speaker AYou're always checking your Instagram.
Speaker AYou got to be available.
Speaker AHey, this is what's going on.
Speaker AI got to be connected.
Speaker ARalph, the pain here, immense exhaustion.
Speaker AWe talked about this last week, which may out, may lead to absolutely outright burnout.
Speaker ABecause what happens is this pace prevents you from focusing on core business operations.
Speaker AYou're so distracted, you're so burned out from being engaged online that you completely lose track of your core business operations.
Speaker AThe quality control of your Products, that strategic thinking that put you in the business in the first place.
Speaker AAnd then honestly, if you're being honest, you're moving along that out that burnout cycle, it just takes you away from living your life.
Speaker AAnd I don't know about you, but I met a lot of people like this lately.
Speaker AYou're constantly focusing on the image that people see online.
Speaker AWhat's that image they're seeing about me online?
Speaker ABut your business, that's a ghost town.
Speaker AThey never seen your business anymore because you're not running your business.
Speaker AYou're running social media content.
Speaker AAnd in the end, it turns your business into a digital hamster wheel where you're running endlessly but getting nowhere, that truly matters.
Speaker AYes, as I said, you're growing followers, you're growing content.
Speaker AYou got the likes, the shares, and you got the idea, the comments.
Speaker ABut your business isn't getting anywhere.
Speaker AI'm going to tell you right now, personally, there were weeks when I thought I couldn't even put my phone down.
Speaker AI was terrified I'd miss an opportunity or some trending viral moment that I needed to be involved in.
Speaker AIt consumed me.
Speaker AAnd ironically, if I was being honest with myself, and I'm doing that now, it made me less effective in my real business work.
Speaker ASo listen to me for a moment, because you need to hear this.
Speaker AThese are not signs that you're failing at social media or technology.
Speaker AA lot of people just assume, well, I'm just not good at social media, Ralph.
Speaker AI'm not good at technology.
Speaker AThey're not signs of that.
Speaker AThey're not signs that you're failing at that.
Speaker ABut what they are is they're powerful, painful signs that your online strategy might be profoundly disconnected from your actual business goals and, and the life you're trying to build.
Speaker AThat's the big key takeaway at where we are right now.
Speaker AThey're painful signs that your online strategy might be profoundly disconnected from your actual business goals.
Speaker AThey are not synced.
Speaker AThey are not combined anymore.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to ask you again, are you feeling some of this right now, in your life, right now, in your business?
Speaker ABe honest.
Speaker AAre you suffering from one or even all of these symptoms?
Speaker AWell, the doctor's in, and I've got some medicine just for you.
Speaker ASee, the power of focusing on real revenue isn't about abandoning your online presence.
Speaker AI'm not saying that.
Speaker AHey, Ralph is saying, now I got to get off online.
Speaker AI can't do it.
Speaker ANot at all.
Speaker ANot at all.
Speaker ABut what I am saying, it's about being strategic.
Speaker AIt's about being intentional and making sure that every single piece of your marketing effort online, or listen to me on this very important or offline, is designed to attract your ideal customer.
Speaker AAnd more importantly, and hear me on this one, and convert them into a paying client.
Speaker AYes, I said a paying client.
Speaker AImagine that.
Speaker AIt's about building a solid, measurable bridge between your audience you have, the audience you've built, that you've spent a lot of time, effort, blood, sweat and tears, as they say.
Speaker ABut it's about building a bridge between that and your actual offerings, the solutions you provide, the products you sell.
Speaker AThis is about working smarter, not just posting more you've already learned.
Speaker APosting more isn't making it happen, Ralph.
Speaker AYes, it is about leveraging the digital world, but not being consumed by it.
Speaker ASo let me ask you right now, have I made my case?
Speaker ADoes any of this resonate with you?
Speaker ADoes it make sense?
Speaker AWell, if so, I've got some answers for you today.
Speaker ASo here are some concrete, actionable steps that you can take right now, starting this week to begin this critical shift.
Speaker AAnd it's going to be a shift.
Speaker AYou're going to have to have a mindset change.
Speaker ABut this is how you do it.
Speaker AMoving your focus from those feel good followers.
Speaker AMaybe you've been very successful with that, but moving that focus from those feel good followers to real revenue.
Speaker AAnd it starts with this.
Speaker AYou've got to redefine your ideal paying customer.
Speaker AYou got to know who that is and it's got to go beyond the demographics a lot of people get stuck on.
Speaker AWell, it's a middle aged man, such and such.
Speaker ANo, that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker AI want you to look at who actually pays you and pays you happily, who values what you do, who can't live without the service or the product that you offer, and even more importantly, who comes back for more and tells every single person they know about your service or your product or your business because that's what you're really looking for.
Speaker ABrand ambassadors ask yourself, what are their deepest problems that your business uniquely solves?
Speaker AWhen I work with coaching clients, one of the first things I asked him, hey, tell me about your business.
Speaker AOkay, that's cool, Fantastic.
Speaker ASounds like you got a great business.
Speaker ABut what's the deepest problem that your business uniquely solves that nobody else can solve or very few people can solve?
Speaker ASo once you have an idea who these people are, what they're looking for, what the problem is that you solve, then you got to ask yourself this more complicated question.
Speaker AWhere do these people truly hang out online?
Speaker AAnd here's a big problem that you might run into.
Speaker ALike my restaurant owner client found out.
Speaker AHow about the people who aren't online?
Speaker ABecause here's the thing you've got to ask yourself, you've got to find out, how do they prefer to be communicated with.
Speaker AYeah, maybe email, direct marketing works, maybe phone calls, or hey, guess what, think about this for a second.
Speaker AMaybe they'd prefer an in person meeting.
Speaker ASee, funny thing is, maybe your ideal customers aren't even online at all.
Speaker AWe're chasing after social media, which is.
Speaker ABut these people don't even bother with it.
Speaker AThey're offline, they're disconnected, they don't want to be involved with this.
Speaker AAnd once you determine where they are, you figure out who they are.
Speaker AWhat is the unique thing that you're giving them, how you reach them.
Speaker AThen you've got to change your dynamic and focus your precious time and energy on genuinely understanding and attracting these specific people.
Speaker ANot just anybody who can click that, like follow, subscribe, share, comment button.
Speaker AAnd when you do this, you're no longer fighting, you're no longer shooting in the dark.
Speaker AYou're sharpening your marketing plan like an arrow.
Speaker AAnd when you do that, it makes your efforts more efficient.
Speaker ASee, I've spent years trying to appeal to everyone.
Speaker AI always thought, hey, I've got this accounting practice, I've got this coaching business, I just got to appeal to everyone.
Speaker AEveryone can benefit from this.
Speaker ABut when I finally got ruthless.
Speaker AYeah, I did.
Speaker AI used the word ruthless.
Speaker ANow there's a power word.
Speaker ABut when I finally got ruthless about defining my ideal paying client, yes, the people that want to pay me, the people who had the money to pay me.
Speaker AMore importantly, my marketing became incredibly focused and my conversations and my connections soared.
Speaker AIt was a game changer.
Speaker ASo that's the first thing.
Speaker ADecide who you're serving, how you serve them, what they're looking for, and where you've reached them.
Speaker ASecond step, you've got to audit your call to actions.
Speaker ASo many people have call to actions which are terribly miserable, they're horrible.
Speaker AAsk yourself, is your call to action clear?
Speaker AIs it unmistakable?
Speaker ADo you understand it when you say it?
Speaker AIs it compelling?
Speaker AOkay, it's clear.
Speaker AIt's combined.
Speaker ABut here's the big one.
Speaker AIs it revenue oriented?
Speaker ADoes it actually make you money?
Speaker ALook at every single piece of content that you put out there.
Speaker AYour social media post, your website, your blog content, even your email signatures.
Speaker AYes, your email signatures, your brochures, and ask this very profound and deep and important Question.
Speaker AAre you clearly telling people what you want them to do next?
Speaker AAre you clearly telling them what you want to do next?
Speaker AI've seen so many people's call to action where I'm like, what are you telling me to do?
Speaker AWhat are you telling your customers to do?
Speaker AI have no idea.
Speaker AThat's piece A, piece B.
Speaker AIs this and is the next step directly tied to a potential sale or qualifying lead?
Speaker AAre you going to make money from it?
Speaker ADo people understand what you want them to do?
Speaker AAnd can you actually make money from it or do you create a lead from that?
Speaker ABoth of those things are fine.
Speaker ABut you ready for some tough love?
Speaker AI'm gonna give you some tough love.
Speaker AI said on this show I would always call it as I see it.
Speaker AI detest this call to action.
Speaker ALike this post.
Speaker AYeah, that's a feel good call to action.
Speaker ABut it doesn't offer any pathway to profit.
Speaker AThere's no revenue connection.
Speaker AHey, like this post.
Speaker AOh, everybody likes to be liked, right?
Speaker AI'd rather people didn't like me, but as long as they're willing to pay me, I'm happy with that.
Speaker ABut see that like this post is a feel good call to action.
Speaker AIt offers no pay pathway to profit.
Speaker AStop using it.
Speaker AIt's not working.
Speaker AIf you have anything out there right now, stop doing it right now.
Speaker AIt's not working.
Speaker AIt's a terrible call to action.
Speaker ALike this post.
Speaker AI see all these clowns on YouTube and clowns on TikTok.
Speaker AOh, like and share this.
Speaker AThat's fine.
Speaker AIf that's what your goal is, to be liked and to be shared and to be commented on, then continue what you're doing.
Speaker ABut if you're like me and you want to make a business and you want to make profit and you want to improve your situation, stop asking for likes and, and start asking for money.
Speaker AStart asking for them to become your customers.
Speaker ALet's talk about some good calls to actions instead.
Speaker AI'm going to encourage you to use things like this.
Speaker AVisit our website for a free consultation.
Speaker AIt's very clear.
Speaker AI want you to visit our website.
Speaker AI'm going to give you a consultation for free.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause I'm going to get in front of you.
Speaker AI'm going to have the opportunity to talk to you and hopefully if I'm good at what I do, sell you my product, sell you my coaching, sell you my service.
Speaker AOr how about this one?
Speaker ADownload our comprehensive guide to X.
Speaker ASolve a problem.
Speaker AI've got a problem.
Speaker AI need it solved.
Speaker AOh, here's what Ralph wants me to do download the comprehensive guide.
Speaker AWe'll talk later in another show about what that comprehensive guide needs to look like because you can't give them all the.
Speaker AAll the gold and expect them to come back to you for revenue.
Speaker AHere's another great call to action.
Speaker ABook your service today.
Speaker AWhat are you asking to do book?
Speaker AI hope your button right there.
Speaker AI hope though you click on this, they get to your.
Speaker AYour contact or they get to a phone number, something like that.
Speaker AThat's another pet peeve of mine.
Speaker AI talked about Ralph Ranci before.
Speaker AIf you are online, make sure that you have a way to be connected.
Speaker AI have seen so many websites, so many calls to action.
Speaker ABook your service today, and then I got to go try to figure out how to get in touch with you.
Speaker AThat's insanity.
Speaker AMake it simple.
Speaker AIf you put friction in the way, guess what?
Speaker APeople aren't going to call you.
Speaker AHere's another great call to action.
Speaker AGet a custom quote here and here.
Speaker ABetter lead them to something.
Speaker AIs it clear what you want them to do and does it directly affect revenue?
Speaker AYou got to make sure that almost every piece of content you put out there has a clear, compelling next step that leads to a genuinely interested person towards becoming a paying customer.
Speaker ADon't leave it to chance.
Speaker ADon't leave it to hope.
Speaker AGet out of the casino and get back to your business.
Speaker AYou want to keep throwing it all on red and hoping that the wheel spins and you make money.
Speaker AThen continue doing what you're doing.
Speaker ABut it's not working.
Speaker AIt's broken.
Speaker AAnd for me, this was a painful audit for me.
Speaker AI remember I was putting out great content.
Speaker AI mean, it was excellent content.
Speaker AI'm a little biased, but I thought it was good and I was just saying hope you liked it.
Speaker AI hope you liked it.
Speaker AGo share it with somebody.
Speaker AIt's not going to make any dollars for me.
Speaker AInstead of if this resonated with you, here's how I can help you solve your problem.
Speaker AClick here.
Speaker ABook now buy this.
Speaker AListen, you got to be bold.
Speaker AYou got to tell your potential customer what you will do for them.
Speaker ADon't leave it to chance.
Speaker ADon't have.
Speaker AWhat's Ralph going to do?
Speaker ABe bold about it.
Speaker ATell your customer what you're going to do for them.
Speaker ANow let's get a little technical for a moment because you might have the best call to actions.
Speaker AYou might have the best.
Speaker AHey, yes, it tells them what they want to do.
Speaker AIt's revenue.
Speaker ABut you got to understand how to track this information.
Speaker AYou got to implement a simple Lead to customer tracking system.
Speaker ABecause this is where the rubber truly meets the road.
Speaker ADon't just hope followers eventually become customers.
Speaker AOh, I'm just hoping I got 25,000 followers.
Speaker AHey, eventually they'll become customers.
Speaker AYou're never going to know that if you don't have a system in place.
Speaker ASo I'm going to encourage you right now.
Speaker ASet up a simple system.
Speaker AIt can be a basic spreadsheet.
Speaker AYeah, back to the numbers.
Speaker AYou can spend some money and get a simple CRM.
Speaker AOkay, I stuck another one in there.
Speaker AIt's fancy terms, but basically that means customer relationship management systems.
Speaker ABasically how you're managing your customers.
Speaker AHey, here's an easy one.
Speaker AJust create a dedicated email inbox for inquiries.
Speaker AThen you can see how many people are emailing you based on what you're putting out there and content.
Speaker AIt's tracking where your leads come from and how many of them are actually converting into.
Speaker ARemember what we said, I don't care about likes, I don't care about shares.
Speaker AI don't care about.
Speaker AOh, comments.
Speaker AHow many of them are actually converting into paying customers?
Speaker ABecause there's power in that data.
Speaker ASee, if you know that 10 website visits from a specific Instagram post lead to one actual sale, then you're understanding your ROI.
Speaker AAgain, return on investment.
Speaker AThat data right there is pure gold because it tells you exactly where you double down your efforts.
Speaker AAnd more importantly, if this one's working, hey, put somebody in that.
Speaker ABut if you do one of those and it's not getting any leads to it, then pull it out.
Speaker ADon't stop chasing after bad money.
Speaker AStop spending good money chasing after bad.
Speaker AAnd when you do this, you're going to stop guessing and start knowing precisely what marketing efforts are delivering real revenue.
Speaker ABut again, it starts with understanding who your customer is, what is the value proposition, and then saying to them, here's what I do, here's how to do it, and it's revenue based.
Speaker AWhen you do this, you're going to stop betting and start banking on a sure bet.
Speaker AAll of us like a sure bet.
Speaker AListen, for me, I used a simple Google sheet for years.
Speaker AJust tracked the lead source and the conversion status.
Speaker AIt wasn't fancy by any stretch, it was a simple spreadsheet, but it gave me an undeniable picture of what was working and more importantly, what wasn't working, and allowed me to cut those wasteful spending dollars.
Speaker ANow, as the doctor, I've got one more final prescription for you.
Speaker AAnd this one may be tough for a lot of people.
Speaker AWe're living in a Society, nobody wants to be connected.
Speaker ABut I truly believe that this will be the biggest thing I'm going to mention today, and that is prioritize direct engagement with potential clients over broadcasting.
Speaker AWhat in the world is Ralph talking about?
Speaker ALet me explain.
Speaker AInstead of just broadcasting to a large, possible unengaged audience like my restaurant client did.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're putting out a ton of content.
Speaker AYou're talking to people out there in the big sphere of YouTube and TikTok and Instagram.
Speaker AThat's fantastic.
Speaker ABut I'm going to encourage you right now to dedicate a specific block of time each week to genuinely in person, by phone, direct email, connect with individuals who fit into your ideal paying customer profile.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AGet on the phone, get out the door and actually get in front of people, it's going to tell you a great deal about your business.
Speaker AHey, if you get in front of people and they're like, ralph, I'd love to use your service, but your customer service sucks.
Speaker AWhen I call there, I can't get ahold of anybody or your prices are outrageous.
Speaker ARalph or Ralph, I don't understand what you offer.
Speaker AYou're never going to figure that out if you're just shouting from a mountaintop and just putting it out there as a broadcast.
Speaker AGet in front of people, get on the phone, talk to your customers, talk to your potential customers.
Speaker AAnd for you, this might mean responding thoughtfully to specific questions or relevant industry posts.
Speaker AGet, if you want to stay online, get into some business groups and start looking at what people are asking.
Speaker AGet involved in that.
Speaker AMaybe it means sending personalized direct messages.
Speaker AAnd I'm not talking about spamming, offering genuine value.
Speaker AAnd like I said a minute ago, maybe actively participating in some online communities where you're, and we talked about this, where your ideal customers are actually asking questions and looking for solutions.
Speaker AOr like I said, my dad used to say this when I first started in the accounting business.
Speaker AHe would, he would have meetings with us and he'd say, all right, guys, listen, we need to grow the business, get out the door and go get in front of customers.
Speaker ASee, it's kind of easy to sit there and broadcast.
Speaker AKind of easy to create oh, cool little brochures and, and just hope somebody's going to come by and look at your website or, or hope somebody's going to come by and grab this brochure.
Speaker AHey, maybe you're even direct mail you're doing.
Speaker ABut again, get out the door and get in front of your customers.
Speaker ABecause here's a truth bomb.
Speaker AThis one on one authentic connection will Always convert better and it builds stronger, more loyal relationships than any viral post ever will.
Speaker AAnd you need to hear, this wasn't 10 or 15 years ago.
Speaker AI hired a business consultant to come in.
Speaker AI said, hey, I really want to grow my business.
Speaker AI wanted to hire this marketing guy.
Speaker AHe sits down in my office and he goes, hey, I've read about your business, I've looked at your website.
Speaker AI understand what you're doing.
Speaker AHe asked me a point blank question.
Speaker AHe said, ralph, let me ask you a question.
Speaker AI said, okay, let me hear it.
Speaker AHe says, ralph, what business are you in?
Speaker AAnd I'm looking around, I'm like, wait a second, dude.
Speaker AYou just told me you looked at my website.
Speaker AYou looked at my brochures.
Speaker AI'm in the accounting business.
Speaker AHave you lost your mind?
Speaker AHe goes, no, you're not.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, oh, this is great.
Speaker AObviously I hired the wrong guy.
Speaker AHe says, no, no, he's, bear with me here, let's get a little deeper.
Speaker AI said, okay, fine, I'm in the consulting business.
Speaker AYou know, I thought, it's a little broader, a little bigger.
Speaker AThat makes sense.
Speaker AHe goes, no, not at all.
Speaker AAnd I know we went through three or four more iterations and I thought, oh, I'm in a tax business.
Speaker AI'm in.
Speaker AAnd I finally said, God, I don't get it, tell me what it is.
Speaker AHe says, ralph, you're in the relationship business.
Speaker AAnd you know, when he said that, it absolutely struck gold for me.
Speaker AHe's right.
Speaker AAnd if you're going to be effective in business, you need to realize one very important truth.
Speaker AYou are in the relationship business.
Speaker AIt's all about the relationships.
Speaker AAnd if it's in, if you're in a relationship, it's about quality interactions, not just the quantity of people looking at, not those 25,000 YouTube followers.
Speaker AYou don't have a relationship with those people.
Speaker AWhat it is, it's about being a real human, solving real problems for real people.
Speaker ASo that's my challenge for you today.
Speaker AGet in front of people and build relationships.
Speaker ANow listen, I've been talking for a while today and friend, I know the digital world is a powerful tool.
Speaker AIt is an incredible amplifier.
Speaker AAnd yes, it can be massive, but it can also be a massive soul sucking distraction if you let it.
Speaker AYes, I said soul sucking because that's what it does.
Speaker AListen to me.
Speaker ADon't let the pursuit of popularity, the fleeting validation of likes overshadow the fundamental goal of building a profitable, sustainable business that actually supports your life, that actually supports your family and More importantly, actively supports your future.
Speaker ABecause here's something you need to hear and I needed to hear it and I needed to get hit over the head with it.
Speaker AYour true value isn't measured in your follower counts.
Speaker AI could care less how many followers you have.
Speaker AI could care less how many people are listening to your YouTube.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AI don't care.
Speaker AThat's not where your true value is measured.
Speaker AIt's measured in the real impact you make on customers lives and the financial stability and the peace of mind that you create for yourself when you make those impacts on your customers.
Speaker ABecause here's something I know about you.
Speaker AYou've got the grit to create an amazing thing.
Speaker AAmazing products, amazing services.
Speaker ANow you just got to apply that grit to convert those amazing things into tangible, real revenue.
Speaker AThat's what this whole show today is about.
Speaker AHow to convert that thing that you offer, the thing that no one else can do, that relationship that you build into real revenue.
Speaker AAnd I want to help you with this.
Speaker AI've created a simple action plan sheet for this episode.
Speaker AIt's called Real Revenue versus Feel Good Followers.
Speaker AThis one, as usual, is a downloadable sheet.
Speaker AIt's absolutely free that will guide you through defining your ideal paying customer, auditing those calls to action.
Speaker AWe talked about that.
Speaker AAnd setting up a simple lead tracking system.
Speaker AIt's a practical tool to help you focus your efforts on what truly grows your business.
Speaker AAnd hear me on this one again, I say that a lot.
Speaker ABut what truly grows your business, not just your ego.
Speaker AAnd you can download it right now by visiting our website.
Speaker AYou go to grit and growth business.com action.
Speaker AAgain, that's grit and growth business.com action.
Speaker ADownload the action plan sheet and start turning that online presence.
Speaker AMaybe you've worked a lot, you've put a lot of money into it, but start turning it into tangible profit today.
Speaker AListen, your energy is finite.
Speaker AYour time is invaluable.
Speaker AYou've got to direct it towards what truly matters.
Speaker AAnd after listening today, I think what truly matters is serving your customers deeply, building those relationships, solving their real problems with your unique expertise, and building a robust business that delivers real revenue.
Speaker ANot those feel good followers.
Speaker ADon't let feel good followers distract you from your real mission, your real potential.
Speaker AYou've got this and I'm right here walking alongside you every step of the way.
Speaker ASo thank you for joining me today on Grit and Growth Business.
Speaker AI'm committed every week to bringing you honest conversations and practical strategies to help you build your business the right way.
Speaker ANow, next week we're going to discuss another crucial topic and that is from chaos to clarity.
Speaker AWe're going to talk about systems that save you.
Speaker AWe're going to explore how simple, repeatable systems can transform your business from a daily source of stress.
Speaker AAnd hey, if you're a business owner, you got what I'm talking about there.
Speaker ABut I'm going to talk about how to transform your business from a daily source of stress into a well oiled, efficient machine.
Speaker ABecause here's why.
Speaker AFreeing up your time and your energy for what truly matters.
Speaker AWhether that's more growth or maybe more life.
Speaker ADon't forget to download our action sheet today for this episode@grit and growth business.com Action.
Speaker ANow go put these things into action.
Speaker AGod bless you and you have a great week.
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